What is the difference between MB Star C3 and MB Star C4

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What is the difference between MB Star C3 and MB Star C4

Many times ago, i saw a blog about MB sd connect C4 for benz, the author said he like this tool very much, and make a comparison with MB Star C3 for a result that MB Star C4 is much better than c3, I was not too much attention to it. However, a month ago, i also saw a thread on an auto fourm about obd tools, the generl mean about the thread is Mb Star C3 is better C4. i think it’s a question, so i want to serach some infos on the internet.

I serach “what’s the difference between MB Star C3 and MB Star C4″ with google, and get some answer. Here i made a discription about C3 C4 and with a share.

1.Many people on the internet all said the MB Star C3, C4 software is the same, C4 whit SD CONNECT also with this software, and for the hardware, C3,C4 is same function in diagnosing.

2.For mercedes Benz, C3 and C4 also can do work, in my opnion, C4 work with all the benz and more than C3, but C3 can do benz truck very well, this is advantage for c3.

3.MB Star C4 is much stronger in anti-interrupting ability, when C4 tests cars, it’s hard to influence by the environmenr outside, such as magnetic field,noise. C4 is much smaller in the appearance than C3.

4.Benz compact 4 SD-Connect is a latest Benz wireless multiplexer. It will connect to the PC by wireless connection.

5.The biggest difference, i think, is connection wiring mode, C3 need 232 port, but C4 can be used with network port, even wireless.

6.Also, the price C3 and C4 is very different, now C3 is the half price fo C4 as far as I know. could you some guys add more infos? i want to know more, thanks.

FAQ:

Q:Do MB STAR C4 Fit all computer, how to use it for benz cars? i want to get more infos.

A:No, mb star c4 only fits Dell D630 laptop, you’d better have a Dell D630 if you want to use a mb star c4.


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How to Choose good SD C4 Star Diagnosis SDConnect MB Star C4

MHHAuto MB Star C4 Mercedes Benz Star Diagnosis SD Connect C4 Experience Sharing

There are so many kinds MB Star C4 SD Connect Multiplexer in the market, how to choose a good Star Diagnosis SD Connect Multiplexer? Below Autonumen.com share a Star Diagnostic SD Connect MB Star C4 Mux identify guide as following. This is sharing from MHHAuto forum, great Mercedes Star diagnostic SDconnect SD C4 tools experience sharing.

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MHHAuto Thread: SD Connect C4 — avoiding garbage

I’m in the market for an SD connect C4 mercedes benz Star Diagnostic Tool and have been trying to spend my time doing some homework to avoid getting a garbage unit. I certainly can understand what a lot of people have been saying about the widely varying quality that’s out there. I am a EE and PCB designer, so I’m trying to make use of that knowledge to select the best unit that I can.

To that end, I’m going to share what info I’ve collected so far, and when I finally end up buying whatever unit I do, I’m going to do a full teardown on it and post the results here.

As another matter, I’ll openly post details on who I buy the unit from and impressions after receiving it.

Near as I can tell right now, there appear to be about 4 “factories” that make different units.

One thing I’ve been asking all of the sellers for (and I would encourage others to do the same) is photos of the actual MB Star C4 SD Connect unit (including PCBs) with a unique identifier in the photo to prove that the unit they say they are going to send me is the actual one they send me. Of course, some sellers immediately bail at this, but then you know who to avoid ahead of time.

In general, a lot of the components used in a Star diagnostic tool SD C4 Multiplexer are getting quite long in the tooth. Many of the parts are approaching 20 years of age. Thus, you stand a fair risk of getting pulls (used parts) and/or remarked parts on these.

In following posts, I’ll provide photos of what I can discern as differences between the MB Star Diagnostic SD Connect C4 units along with some commentary about whatever info I can provide at this point.

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to, I’ve outlined some things I feel are important to note. They have a set of 4 analog switches on the PCB. In this photo, they are ADG426 from Analog Devices. I’ve seen some clones that use DG526CY from Harris/Intersil. The DG526CY, besides being completely obsolete, has an typical RDSON of 270 ohms vs 80 for the Analog Devices part. It also has a -55dB isolation vs -75dB for the AD part. In short, the AD part is just a much better mux. So with that said, I would insist on any unit I’m interested in using those.

A second thing you’ll notice is the use of can crystals where 4 pin variants were intended. This is just sloppy and cheap. There may also be issue with loading (and ultimately clock stability) depending on whether they matched the loading caps to the substituted crystal or not.

I haven’t had a set of photos high res enough to look at the rest of the actives in detail yet, as most sellers don’t seem to post them.

There’s also an issue pointed out on the bottom of the board where one of the (what appears to be) MOSFETs in (what appears to be a) D2 PAK looks like it was hand soldered. Again, no good.

This next photo is of the relay Star Diagnosis SD Connect PCB— I think one of the MHH members posted this from an original SD C4.

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.5NU relays and EPCOS S513N chokes. I’ve seen plenty of PCBs where they remove the chokes and stub them out with 0 ohm resistors. That is a high crime in terms of signal integrity. You see a lot of “full chips” comments where these are present, although that is a bit of a misnomer. It should read as “common mode filters present”.

On this PCB, you’ll also notice the use of multilayer ceramic capacitors (MLCC) near the switching supplies. A lot of clones seem to use electrolytic capacitors in place of the bigger MLCCs because of the cost. MLCCs are preferred for switchers because of their low ESR. I really cannot comprehend why the clone makers skimp on these. Even in the US, in reel (e.g. 4K pcs) qty, a 47uF MLCC is about $0.20/ea. That means the difference of probably about $0.50 for the whole PCB. The other advantage of MLCCs is that they more or less last forever, whereas electrolytic caps will eventually dry out and fail (and who knows how old the ones you’re getting are and what the quality is to begin with).

In the upper right hand corner, you’ll see some footprints that weren’t solder pasted during stencil printing. To me, this is a good thing. You know what parts were intended to be populated and which were not. You also get a chance to examine the ENIG finish.

In the next photo, you’ll see the MPC5200 board. This is an 8 layer PCB.

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There are a couple of things of note on this board:

(1) The AMD 10/100 ethernet PHY that’s used comes in 2 revisions and a few different temperature ratings. I have to check the details carefully between the rev A and B, but in terms of temp rating, this should be ‘I’ (industrial) vs ‘C’ (commercial).

These PHYs are ancient now, so any price difference should be minimal between the C and I version. Thus, again, I can’t imagine why anyone would try to save $0.01 and use the C version.

(2)(Anturage corrected me here — this header brings out USB, MII (Ethernet MAC), and some other signals)

(Will update below with the location of JTAG when I find it…)

The header at the lower left hand corner of the board is the JTAG header for the MPC5200. For PowerPC, they refer to this interface as BDM. I haven’t seen anyone talking about it on here, but this could be quite useful in some cases if/when the SDC is flaking out. For anyone who’s not familiar with this interface, it allows you to halt/breakpoint/single step the processor. You can also test the memory attached to the CPU etc. Unfortunately, on this MB Star Diagnosis SD Connect C4 particular PCB, some solder paste leaked through (although I’m not exactly sure how this could happen if I think about it…) onto a few of the pads.

(3) The memory chips are at the bottom. They’re DDR SDRAM (I made a mistake when I originally posted this, I wrote that they were not DDR, but upon closer inspection, they are). You can see the series termination resistors between the memory chips and the MPC5200. As others have pointed out, these should be identical and from the same date/lot code. These parts are plentiful and cheap as dirt, so there’s absolutely no excuse for any funny business there.

(4) The Spansion S29GL064N is a 64Mb (8MB) parallel NOR flash. Pretty standard for the time this unit was designed. This is what the MPC5200 boots from and where U-Boot, the RTOS, etc. live. You can dump and rewrite the contents of this flash via JTAG (mentioned above). These parts are still readily available and cheap.

You’ll notice on this MB Star C4 SD Connect PCB that right below the AMD PHY, there’s a 32KHz tuning fork crystal in a 4 pin package. This is the package that should have been used on the other PCB as well.

In general, this particular MB Star C4 SD Connect PCB looks to be of reasonably high quality.

The last photo that I have is of the LCD display.

I’ve seen a lot of different variants of this particular board.

There’s this example ‘FT-C4-LCD’. I’ve seen another ‘LCD V1.1’ variant as well.

The biggest thing with this board is that it’s a HASL (hot air solder level) finish. Granted, this is not the most complex PCB in the world by a long stretch, but it just goes to show you how for these companies will go to save every last penny. Although I haven’t seen the back side of one of the ‘FT-C4-LCD’ variants, the ‘LCD v1.1’ variant seems to use some ST microcontroller. Maybe the FT-C4-LCD has one on the back?

There’s nothing else particularly remarkable about this board, although my impression is that the higher quality units seem to use this FT-C4-LCD variant. If anyone has information to the contrary, I’d certainly appreciate knowing about it.

So as I’ve mentioned before, I’ve been sending these photos to any prospective sellers with MB Star C4 Mercedes Benz SD C4 units and asking them to address the issues I’ve pointed out here in writing.

If they either can’t or won’t, I just simply move on. I’m sure there are some people that will argue that I’m just wasting my time, but that’s fine, it’s my time to waste. I think if enough buyers start insisting on better quality up front, and stop buying garbage, it may encourage the factories to improve their quality in general.

To that end, I’m asking any seller each as eobdtool.com to guarantee, in writing, that I will receive exactly what we agreed upon up front, or that they will have to provide a full refund and pay return shipping. To be fair, I am willing to pay more for that. I’m not asking for a top shelf unit at a rock bottom price.

So for any sellers reading this that are interested, please post a note on here, as it may be of interest to others. No need to PM me. Any experience that I have with any seller, I will report back to on here fairly and accurately. I think anyone deserves a fair chance. At the same time, I will be completely honest and detailed about the entire experience, so please bear that in mind ahead of time. I would encourage others to do the same. I feel like this is one place where open communication will benefit everyone.

To any sellers that might be reading this:

Please understand that none of us want to buy a unit, have problems, and have to deal with sending back to China and playing games with you. All anyone wants is a high quality unit that will work reliably for years. It is better for you and for us to pay a little more up front and get a better quality product. Since you go to great lengths to obscure your production sources, it becomes your job to communicate to them that poor quality is not acceptable.

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Solutions to MB SD Connect C4 Star Diagnosis problems

1. About computer system requirement

Q: Blue screen after insert MB SD Connect Compact 4 Star Dell D60 hard disk into the computer and open it.

A: Make sure Dell D630 computer is integrated video card and with 1GB memory, because the D630 of discrete video card is easy to have blue screen or shutdown and restart, restart and shutdown.

Q: When click “Diagnostic” to find “Fingerprint ID” of MB SD C4 2013.5, got an error” Internal error (3.17) – 3.89 You must contact the user help Desk “. (Shown picture below)

A: Check whether computer is compatible with SD C4 2013.05 software. If choose d630 hard disk, it needs to work with Dell D630 computer with integrated video card and 1GB memory; if choose movable hard disk, it’s requirement to the computer is: CPU 2.0GHZ or above, 2GB memory or more, Windows XP professional.

2. About languages available

Q: Is DAS available with 21 languages and optional to reset? Or only English available?

A: The DAS on the desktop is only English available, after enter into Xentry you are allowed to set the language you want. Just enter into Xentry whatever car models you want to diagnose, and if the car model should be diagnosed and programmed in the DAS but you enter Xentry, it will automatically switch into DAS and the DAS language will be as the same as the Xentry language.

3. About update

Q: MB SD C4 Connect Compact 4 Star 2013.03 update error: the software update was aborted. Please repeat the update process. (662)

A: do not update MB SD Connect Compact 4. You are allowed to update hardware version to 2.02, not 2.2.

4. About activation/code
Q1: When Setup SD connect Compact 4 hard disk, while got a message reading “No access authorization code! Please contact the Star diagnosis call center.

A1: It needs activation, please send us Hardware fingerprint, LAN-ID and HW-ID, then we will help you active.


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How to update Benz MB SD Connect C4 firmware to 2.30

If the Mercedes Benz MB SD Connect C4 diagnostic system reports “DCDI-eErrorCode=204 (204)” error, the possible reason is that the SD Connect Star diagnosis firmware program was deleted so that the Star multiplexer WIFI and configuration are failed. The only solution is to update and flash the firmware.  Error screenshots taken below:
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Follow the instruction here to updare the MB SD Connect C4 multiplexer firmware:

Update Star diagnosis Connect main unit firmware to 2.30 version:
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1) Prepare 6 AA5 batteries, follow the pdf document “How to install MB SD C4 rechargeable battery” to installed battery
https://www.autonumen.com/category-163-b0-MB+Star+Compact+C4.html

NOTE: Must use the new battery and make sure battery is fully charged, otherwise may fail to update the firmware. Connect the Star diagnostic Connect multiplexer with computer via LAN cable and connect it with vehicle using OBD main cable. If SD C4 cannot connect to vehicle, feed it with OBD 12V power supply. If SD Connect is not connected with vehicle or fed with OBD 12V power supply, the SD Connect will report 622 firmware update fail error.

2)      Open 2012.09 DAS software, browse to C:/program files/SDconnect Toolkit, to check if the three files are included in the folder: Update-automatic, Update-manual, Update-Special, shown as picture below:
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If the file names are incorrect, rename the file.

3) Reboot the computer

4)  Start updating firmware. Follow the instruction on “2 Update SDconnect”

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DIY Coding Mercedes Benz with MB SD Connect C4

Autonumen.com provides several Mercedes Benz coding instructions with MB SD Connect C4 diagnostic tool.

Equipment:
Mercedes Benz MB SD Connect C4 Star Diagnostic System (SDS) Developer Mode
Dell D630 laptop

1) How to add rear airbags to the AB control module

After well install and activate SD Connect C4 software, run a self test.
Connect MB SD Connect C4 to vehicle via OBD socket
Run MB SD C4 DAS software
Select Control Units
Select Body
Select Airbag (AB)
Select Development Data
Select Control Module Adaptations
Select Variant Coding
Select Fahrzeugausstatung Kodieren
(the last menu entry can be slightly different in various module variants)
Select the drop-down list in the field Airbag Hinten Rechts and Airbag Hinten Links
Set the value to Yes
Back up to the main Airbag menu, reset the fault codes, cycle ignition, reset fault codes again and cycle the ignition for 2nd time.

2) How to update the speed limited in a gasoline (ME-series controller) engine control unit

Select Control units
Select Drive module
Select ME-SFI 28
Select Development Data
Select Control Unit Adaptations
Select Explizite Kodierung

3) How to add fog lamps to function as a cornering aid
Select Control units
Select Body
Select Driver Side SAM
Select Development Data
Select Control Unit Adaptations
Select Variant Coding
Select Abbiegelicht set to ON (“ja”).
Select Passenger SAM (if present, for example in 211/219 model series) and similarly perform the same coding operation in the second SAM unit.


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Some problem when you operate the MB Star C4

So many customer meet some problem when they operate MB Star C4.If you also have some problem .pls do not worry about that .you could tell us what is happened and send the picture which step could not work .Our engineer will solve that one by one for you .

Here Let us to show some problem we often meet then how to solve that as following :

Q1: The MB STAR C4 could work with the window 7?
A1: Although the moveable hard disk version is compatible with WIN7, better Professional version. But we suggest you not use WIN7, 90% sdc4 software get broken because of the usage of WIN7.

Q2: When you operate the mb star c4 but that the Screen become blue after  insert SD C4 Dell D60 hard disk into the computer and open it.
A2: Pls note : you need make sure your Dell D630 computer is integrated video card and with 1GB memory, because the D630 of discrete video card is easy to have blue screen or shutdown and restart, restart and shutdown.

Q3:When you operate that .if appear the problem as following picture ?

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A3: Pls do not worry about that .you need activate that .and then we will send the the Xentry deverloper file then you will activate that is ok .
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Here i wont list more one by one here ,if you meet any problem when you operate the mb star c4 ,pls contact us on our website : www.autonumen.com .

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MB Star C3 vs MB Star C4

New Mercedes Benz Star C3 is a professional diagnostic tool specially for mercedes benz cars. Mercedes Benz Star C3 can do benz trucks and new types of mercedes cars.Super quality,Big aluminum box for package, easy to take at hand.XP-STAR(Auto-Link Blue STAR) realizes all the functions of official factory BENZ Star2000: reading out and erasing trouble code; reading the real-time data of sensor and actuator; coding and programming. It applies the latest high-tech central gateway system of car model 221/211 and 203 with software version updated to October of 2006, can enter all the Benz cars, such as autobus truck, saloon car, sports car, smart car and so on.

MB STAR C3 VS MB STAR C4:
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MB SD Connect Compact 4 supports reading & erasing trouble code,reading the real-time data of sensor and actuator, coding and programming. MB SD Connect Compact 4 supports wireless diagnose, support K-line,CAN BUS and UDS protocol, fit all computers,with multi-language.

Many people on the internet all said the MB Star C3, C4 software is the same, C4 whit SD CONNECT also with this software, and for the hardware, C3,C4 is same function in diagnosing.For mercedes Benz, C3 and C4 also can do work, in my opnion, C4 work with all the benz and more than C3, but C3 can do benz truck very well, this is advantage for c3.C4 is much stronger in anti-interrupting ability, when C4 tests cars, it’s hard to influence by the environmenr outside, such as magnetic field,noise. C4 is much smaller in the appearance than C3.Benz compact 4 SD-Connect is a latest Benz wireless multiplexer. It will connect to the PC by wireless connection.The biggest difference, i think, is connection wiring mode, C3 need 232 port, but C4 can be used with network port, even wireless.Also, the price C3 and C4 is very different, now C3 is the half price fo C4 as far as I know. could you some guys add more infos? i want to know more, thanks.

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Easy methods to select MB Star, Extremely MB Star, MB SD C4, Mercedes BENZ C5 SD

MB Star, Extremely MB SD Connect C4, MB SD C4, Mercedes BENZ C5 SD are usually analysis tools to get benz, and autonumen.com have several different benz diagnostic tools,how to choose from them?
you. HDD Practice Hints:
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you. Work with outside HDD, you should ensure you in close proximity a person’s anti-virus program as soon as going your program, in any other case program will be broken couple of. If you are using inside HDD similar to DELL D630 HDD, you should do not install new softare upon our own hard disk, furthermore you should do not adjust our own program, should program happen to be broken.
a few. In the event you build your password to get our own program, you should don’t forget your password. couple of. Star analysis tools assist encoding operate, include online& real world encoding, what you need to be charged focus?
you. To get online encoding operate, 2014. 12 and more sophisticated program could assist. To get old edition, can not assist.
couple of. Whenever purchaser needs to open up your real world operate, program edition in advance of 2014. 07 can not assist.
a few. Benz star c3, c4, plenty of motor vehicle styles would possibly not assist online encoding. Far better to decide on mb sd c4 having most recent 2015. 07 program.
a few. MB Star, Extremely MB Star, MB SD C4, Mercedes BENZ C5 SD Hook up Comparing:
Object NO. SP45-C SP45-F SP117 SP06 SP100-B SP100-D SP45-B SP243
Object Name MB Star C3 MB Star C3
having 7 cables Best MB Star C3 MB Star C4 MB SD C4 MB SD C4 Super MB STAR C3 Second Hands MB SD C5
Original NO NO NO NO NO NO HDD is definitely original Original
Most recent Version 2015. 05 2015. 05 2015. 07 2015. 05 2015. 07 2015. 07 2015. 05
Update By HDD By HDD By HDD By HDD By HDD By HDD Update Online
12 months to get free Support Redesign
Tough Disk External HDD,
Dell D630 HDD External HDD,
Dell D630 HDD External HDD,
Dell D630 HDD External HDD,
Dell D630 HDD External HDD,
Dell D630 HDD External HDD,
Dell D630 HDD External HDD,
T30 HDD,
Dell D630 HDD SSD HDD
Assist
Vehicles 12V automobiles only cars, trucks cars, trucks cars, trucks cars, trucks cars, trucks cars, trucks cars, vans
Connection Cable Connection Cable Connection Cable Connection Cable Connection Lan Wire and
Cellular Connection Lan Wire and
Cellular Connection Cable Connection Cable Link
Cellular Link
Protocols K-line and
COULD Bus K-line and
COULD Bus K-line and
COULD Bus K-line and
COULD Bus k-line, COULD Bus,
UDS k-line, COULD Bus,
UDS K-line and
COULD Bus Support BENZ most recent process
Assist Most recent Crossbreed W222.


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High Quality Full Chip MB Star C4 SD Connect

Car Diagnostic Tools MB Star SD Connect C4 Function:

1. 2000~up to now Car, Truck, Sprint, Smart;

2. All electric system Diagnostic;

3. Reading out and erasing trouble code; reading the real-time data of sensor and actuator; testing the components of cars; coding and programming.

4. Support WIFI (Need to Set Different IP Address)

5.Software Support Multi-language:

English, Chinese,Czech, Danish, German, Greek, Spainsh, Finnish, French, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Serbo, Slovak, Slovenian, Swedish, Turkish

6. New Star Diagnosis C4 not only supports K-line diagnose, CAN BUS,but also UDS diagnose protocol. Because old MB Star C4 main board do not have UDS chip, the old one can not support it;

7. Connector adopt Military quick swap technology, it can support 10,000 times pull plug, more stable;

8. All core accosseries adopt original new packing chip, and 24hours test, guarantee the quality of the products

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Software List:

1) DAS: the automatically Diagnosis Assistance System

2) X-T: New software released to diagnosis new cars.

3) WIS.net: Workshop Information System

4) EPC.net: Electronic Parts Catalog

5) ST Finder: Part location finder

6) STARUTILITIES : the movement management system and self-test

7) SD Media : Video and PDF lessons

8) PL 71: Price List to find out how much price by input the parts number

9) Smart TAN Code: Opened special function in DAS program with Smart cars 450/451/452/454

10) DTS Monaco 8: (install it via teamviewer after getting parcel, please contact seller)

11)  Disassembly system: Video lessons to teach you how to remove each

12) part from cars with details order steps.C4

13)Vediamo: V5.01.00

Newest version v2018.12 added more special function

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MB STAR Scanner MB Star SD C4 Laptop:

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CF-19– a Super Military Toughbook,

Waterproof,

Dustproof,

Drop Resistance,

180° Rotatable Touchscreen

Why choose our CF19 Laptop:

Super Military Toughbook! Second hand But in Very good condition, we test every cf19 laptop before shipping, quality warranty!!!

High configuration:

Screen Size: 10.1 inch

Memory (RAM): 4GB ( while others offer only 2G, To work with C4 system,4G is much more fast and stable)

Processor Type: Intel Core 2 Dual

CPU: update to i5 cpu ( while other offer —  L7500 the lowest configutation)
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Which mb sdconnect c4 worth the money?

MB SD connect C4 with laptop v2018.5 Version avaiable now ,It is ready to work after you get it ,worth to buy.

Star diagnosis SD C4 can used by wire connection or lan cable,everything set well before send it out .full chip .detail info.

1.Support Wireless

2.Software Version:2018.05

3. Hardware Verison:  OS:2.3   CSD:2.11

4.Serial number:100925
5. Supported Multi-Language: English/Bulgarian/Danish/Greek/Spanish/French/Italian/Korean/Polish/Romanuan/Serbo-Croatian/ Turkish/Czech/German/Finish/Hyngarian/Japanese/Dutch/Portuguese/Russian/Swedish/Chinese

6. Support Offline and Online Programming.

as we know ,it support wifi work,how to set it in WIFI condition ?

somebody do not know , but we know ,so we recommend buy with laptop together ,

so can use it directly when you get it .it’s worth to buy and save more time .Best feedback from here .

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